diff --git a/CMakeLists.txt b/CMakeLists.txt
index 984ed5e..1ccc5a0 100644
--- a/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.20)
 include(cmake/color.cmake)
-set(BLT_VERSION 0.20.14)
+set(BLT_VERSION 0.20.15)
 set(BLT_TEST_VERSION 0.0.1)
 
 set(BLT_TARGET BLT)
diff --git a/include/blt/math/log_util.h b/include/blt/math/log_util.h
index 76be9cd..fb2510c 100644
--- a/include/blt/math/log_util.h
+++ b/include/blt/math/log_util.h
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@
 namespace blt
 {
     
-    template<typename Writer = blt::logging::logger, typename T, blt::u32 size>
-    static inline Writer& operator<<(Writer& log, const blt::vec<T, size>& vec)
+    template<typename T, blt::u32 size, typename CharT, typename Traits>
+    static inline std::basic_ostream<CharT, Traits>& operator<<(std::basic_ostream<CharT, Traits>& log, const blt::vec<T, size>& vec)
     {
         std::string type_string;
         const auto tstr = blt::type_string<T>();
@@ -45,8 +45,8 @@ namespace blt
         return log;
     }
     
-    template<typename Writer = std::ostream>
-    inline Writer& operator<<(Writer& out, const mat4x4& v)
+    template<typename CharT, typename Traits>
+    inline std::basic_ostream<CharT, Traits>& operator<<(std::basic_ostream<CharT, Traits>& out, const mat4x4& v)
     {
         out << "Mat4x4(";
         out << "{" << v.m00() << ", " << v.m01() << ", " << v.m02() << ", " << v.m03() << "},";
diff --git a/include/blt/math/matrix.h b/include/blt/math/matrix.h
index 5a3200a..bdd51bc 100644
--- a/include/blt/math/matrix.h
+++ b/include/blt/math/matrix.h
@@ -175,6 +175,18 @@ namespace blt
                 return data[column][row] = value;
             };
             
+            /**
+             * Takes a value stored across a row, taking one from each column in the specified row
+             * @param row the row to extract from. defaults to the first row
+             */
+            constexpr inline vec<T, columns> vec_from_column_row(blt::u32 row = 0)
+            {
+                vec<T, columns> ret;
+                for (blt::u32 j = 0; j < columns; j++)
+                    ret[j] = data[j][row];
+                return ret;
+            }
+            
             /**
              * Assign to this matrix from the row information in each column of a matrix
              * Where columns can be assigned directly from each-other, row stored data must be assigned this way